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Steep Ascent Through the Schinderkar – Summit cross on the Bavarian Schinder loop from Betretungsverbot Elendsattel/Tuschberg

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Steep Ascent Through the Schinderkar – Summit cross on the Bavarian Schinder loop from Betretungsverbot Elendsattel/Tuschberg

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Steep Ascent Through the Schinderkar – Summit cross on the Bavarian Schinder loop from Betretungsverbot Elendsattel/Tuschberg

05:52

11.8km

960m

Hiking

Hard hike. Very good fitness required. Sure-footedness, sturdy shoes and alpine experience required. The starting point of the route is accessible with public transport.

Last updated: August 6, 2026

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Includes a segment that may be dangerous

A part of this route comprises technical, difficult, or hazardous terrain. Specialist equipment and prior experience may be required.

After 4.35 km for 1.79 km

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3.85 km

Steep Ascent Through the Schinderkar

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After a small climbing unit (no climbing equipment needed) follows the Kar. Here are to be recommended: Ankle-high hiking boots and hiking poles to keep on the slippery surface better balance

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4.99 km

The Bavarian Schinder is only slightly lower than the main summit ("Austrian Schinder"), but it is much more rugged and rocky. The ascent over the ridge connection from the Austrian …

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6.01 km

Österreichischer Schinder

Peak

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7.47 km

Trausnitzalm

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The last time I was here there were drinks for sale, this time it was closed

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8.99 km

Waterfall in Upper Bavaria

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11.8 km

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Way Types & Surfaces

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7.94 km

2.82 km

607 m

233 m

191 m

Surfaces

7.10 km

2.52 km

1.09 km

888 m

191 m

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Saturday 22 August

19°C

6°C

20 %

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Comments

August 23, 2024,Schindertor – Österreichischer Schinder loop from Valepp
Great tour for experienced climbers!
The ascent through the cirque is the best. NOT recommended as a descent.


In any case, only do it if you are fairly sure-footed and have a head for heights.

Climb both climbs - the view is worth it!
Take 2-3 liters of water with you and something useful to recharge your muscles (today it …

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Tour of the Schinder (Border Mountain Bavaria-Tyrol)

Since July, a minibus has finally been running to Valepp again – the ideal opportunity to climb the Schinder, a striking border mountain with Bavarian and Tyrolean peaks.

The approach to the Schinder cirque is initially pleasant and without major difficulties. From there, however, the tour becomes increasingly challenging: The ascent through the …

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A tough climb for the first day that feels like summer this year 🌞🥵
This time, we started cycling directly from our front door and rode over the Spitzingsattel to the Valepp. There, we parked our bikes at the hiking car park, which can of course also be reached by car via the toll road.

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August 9, 2025,Schinder von Valepp
Valepp hiking car park 922m
Schindertor 1670m
Bavarian Schinder 1796m
Austrian Schinder 1808m


Parking €10
Toll road €6
No refreshments available


...at 35°C, over the Schinder in the midday sun, it's only a relatively good idea for men wearing hats, as it simply gives you more breaks and a bit less of a climb. I gratefully skipped the Bavarian Schinder …

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First of all: the Austrian Schinder was almost a size too big today 🫣. Hence the title border area. We are moving between 🇩🇪 and 🇦🇹, but 👱🏻‍♀️ also above the comfort zone.

From the 🅿️ the path climbs gently, increasing from 8% to a relaxed 50%. It is extremely slippery on the gravel (also called a cirque), we slowly …

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On Sunday I took part in a guided tour of the Valepp forestry house and, while I was at it, made a detour to the Austrian Schinder. Unfortunately I started the navigation a little late.🥴 I guess it was still the effects of the run the day before.😬🙈😅

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